Digest 37, originally sent Sun Jan 16 03:39:37 2000
There are 4 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. A helping hand.
From: "Rick majewski" <creative@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx
2. Re: Digest Number 36
From: "Bloch Studio" <artglass@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
3. RE: Digest Number 36
From: Ann Margaret Trautlein <refiningdesigns@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Digest Number 34-36
From: "Roderick J. Geis" <Geis@rayzist.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:40:48 -0800
From: "Rick majewski" <creative@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: A helping hand.
> In my first message I did not explain what I needed help on. We are having
> problems
> with the photo resist. I have set all of the settings as directed in the
> Photoshop program.
> Printed it onto velumn with our lasar printer. Developed the 2 mil resist
for
> 35
> seconds in the developer. Washed it out and we still do not have the
correct
> results.
>
> This is a plea for assistance the destroyed photo resist is getting quite
> expensive and nothing to show for it.
> Donna
> starc2@att.net
Hi there Donna!
Maybe I can help you out on this frustating problem,
I remember going through it myself some years ago!
FIRST: Only use SR2000 Photo resist film.
THEN: Only print (dark) on acetate.
THEN: Lay acetate (either side on dull side of SR2000)
THEN: Expose for only 30secs. (SR2000)Fine lines 28secs.
THEN: Wash out with aggressive COLD spray for 1min.
(Pressure is important)
(hot or warm water tend to soften the main resist)
I'm assuming you have a flat bed UV exposure unit.
(They are the best and are cheaper now, at last)
If you are using a small drum unit ...keep trying!
I now get perfect results! Halleluya!
Keep us updated on your progress......Regards.
Rick M. (Decorvidro Madeira Island)
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:21:34 -0800
From: "Bloch Studio" <artglass@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Subject: Re: Digest Number 36
You might also call the company you bought the resist from. They're usually very
helpful with technical advice. It might be something simple. Did you put the
vellum paper and resist the correct way on the developer, as indicated in the
instructions? Are you using a yellow bulb in a dark room ( not all resists
require this, but some do). What are the results you're getting. That would
help know what's not working.
Susan
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:17:21 -0500
From: Ann Margaret Trautlein <refiningdesigns@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Subject: RE: Digest Number 36
Dear Donna,
2 questions for you...
1)are you washing it out with a regular faucet ? or are you using a sprayer?
You definitely need to be using a pressure sprayer if so. Not knowing what kind
of film you are using, make sure your water temp is around 85 degrees. It is a
good temp for most films. You will learn to adjust the temp depending on water
pressure, and detail of washout area.
2)are you getting NO hardening of the emulsion? or does it just look really
crappy? Photoshop is a pixel format rather than a vector format as you may
know. what may look good to the eye to the naked eye when you print can be
magnified when it is burned onto your film. Detail can be critical. When
people advise you to have a good clean line, they are not kidding. Try reducing
the art that you have already failed with to see if the tighter lines don't make
a difference on your burn.
I burned through a couple of hundred dollars worth of film when I started,
trying to cut corners. Clean art, a sprayer, and proper water temperatures are
your keys to success. I highly recommend working in Vector art programs such
as Illustrator or Corel to guarantee the quality of your lines. Also, try not
to be too ambitious until you get this down. Use LITTLE pieces of film at a
time!
Hang in there, though. It is worth it !
Sincerely,
Ann
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To: sandcarving@onelist.com
Subject: [sandcarving] Digest Number 36
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There are 3 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. Need help #2
From: starc2@att.net
2. Re: [Need help #2]
From: DAVID CROSS <davidcross@usa.net>
3. Re: Need help #2
From: PBGetch@aol.com
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Message: 1
Date: 13 Jan 2000 17:20:57 -0000
From: starc2@att.net
Subject: Need help #2
In my first message I did not explain what I needed help on. We are having
problems with the photo resist. I have set all of the settings as directed in
the Photoshop program. Printed it onto velumn with our lasar printer. Developed
the 2 mil resist for 35 seconds in the developer. Washed it out and we still do
not have the correct results.
This is a plea for assistance the destroyed photo resist is getting quite
expensive and nothing to show for it.
Donna
starc2@att.net
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Message: 2
Date: 14 Jan 00 07:16:30 EST
From: DAVID CROSS <davidcross@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [Need help #2]
Some laser printers do not lay down a dark enough layer of toner to stop all
of the light reaching the film. If this happens, the areas that you need to
wash out will actually be partially exposed and will remain.
TRry printing out on another type of laser printer and see if this fixes the
problem. Also some software will actually let you increase the level of toner
at the printer, and as a last resort check your toner cartridge, it may be
running out!
David
Blasted Art
Australia
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In my first message I did not explain what I needed help on. We are having
problems
with the photo resist. I have set all of the settings as directed in the
Photoshop program.
Printed it onto velumn with our lasar printer. Developed the 2 mil resist for
35
seconds in the developer. Washed it out and we still do not have the correct
results.
This is a plea for assistance the destroyed photo resist is getting quite
expensive and nothing to show for it.
Donna
starc2@att.net
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:17:25 EST
From: PBGetch@aol.com
Subject: Re: Need help #2
Donna,
Have you had any previous success with the resist?
Try the following:
Print your artwork on regular white paper.
Take your white paper and two pieces of vellum to Kinko's, or some good
printer.
They can print on the vellum. The reason for two pieces, sometimes the paper
can have a problem feeding. Also they will be unsure about doing it. If they
know you have a spare piece I think it makes them feel better.
Next, use 3mil resist, and set the timer for 35 seconds.
Wash out with warm water, not cold. Blot ever so gently, then use little
clips and hang to dry. Let dry for at least 20 minutes.
Good luck. Hope this helps.
Also on your artwork, make sure your lines are wide enough and clear.
Let me know if it works!
Paula
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:28:07 -0800
From: "Roderick J. Geis" <Geis@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Subject: Re: Digest Number 34-36
Donna,
With regard to your trouble in Photoshop: In that were able to print
the line screens previously (right?) I would recommend starting
from scratch on another photo. Any number of settings could be
causing this problem, but if you start from scratch you should be
able to get it to work. If this still won't produce a line screen print-
out, you may want to consider reinstalling your printer drivers and
then possibly Photoshop.
With regard to exposing 2 mil photo resist: 35 is too long of an
exposure for 2 mil. try 20 to 25 seconds. 2 mil is much more
sensitive than other mils of resist. It is even recommended that
you work with the product in subdued lighting if possible. To
ensure that the mask is working take a small sample and try
washout with no exposure. The mask should wash off completely.
-Roderick
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